28 October 2008
Focus on the Ridiculous
Posted by admin under: politics; religion .
I ignored this story because it was so, well, ridiculous, but I keep seeing it over and over again. So, how about that James Dobson and his Focus on the Family alternate reality in 2012 if Obama wins, huh?
President Obama repeated his declaration that he personally was against same sex marriage, but he told the nation that there was nothing now that he could do. The Supreme Court had ruled, and it was now the law of the land. The President asked the entire nation to support
the decision.
After that decision, many other policies changed, and several previous Supreme Court cases were reversed rather quickly — raising the question, “Is America still the land of the free?”
(1) Boy Scouts: “The land of the free”? The Boy Scouts no longer exist as an organization. They chose to disband rather than be forced to obey the Supreme Court decision that they would have to hire homosexual scoutmasters and allow them to sleep in tents with young boys.
Gak. I’ve generally thought well of Dr. Dobson. He’s doing what he thinks is for the best, but his letter in general and this portion in particular is just vitriolic, hyperbolic, and demagogic. Does it seem possible that same-sex marriage could be ruled a right if Obama appoints a few of the justices? Sure. Could that kind of court reverse the Dale decision and mandate the BSA hire or approve gay leaders? Yep. Does that mean that they can tell the BSA to let gay leaders sleep in tents with boys? No way. It’s not even remotely possible or in any way legal. I’m sorry, but as much respect as I know many have for Dr. Dobson, this letter was a lie because it twisted what is possible into something that is impossible. And I really don’t like it when people lie about the Boy Scouts. It’s that little extra that makes it so wrong: “and allow them to sleep in tents with young boys”.
I know the BSA won’t weigh in on this letter because it gets into the political arena, but I think a lot of people would feel a lot easier if they would just say that the letter doesn’t speak for the BSA or its current or possible future actions. How in the world would the Supreme Court decide on a policy of leaders sleeping in tents with kids? It’s just so clearly wrong. *sigh*
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- Another left-wing attack on Boy Scouts
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5 Comments so far...
Eric Says:
28 October 2008 at 11:56 pm.
I agree that the “sleeping in tents” is unlikely, but if the government can tell the BSA who its leaders are, what’s to stop them from making other impositions? Don’t underestimate the intentions of the radical left. These are the same folks who continue to support such a despicable group as NAMBLA. Theirs is a warped view of libertarianism that says, “Who are you to discriminate against a man who wants to sleep in a tent with a boy.”
Again, it’s unlikely, but so was the idea of legalized “gay” marriage a decade ago. Either way, an Obama presidency will have long term repercussions for the BSA. Within a few years, the BSA will lose their legal right to teach and live the values they’ve upheld for 100 years. And when that happens, the whole country loses.
admin Says:
29 October 2008 at 11:21 am.
It’s not unlikely, Eric. It’s impossible. There’s just no truth whatsoever to it. The Supreme Court would never, ever tell an organization which members had to sleep together. There is absolutely no politician in office or running for office that approves of NAMBLA. Sleeping in tents together is 100%, take it to the bank, never going to even be proposed as something the Supreme Court should consider. That’s what offends me about that letter. It is positing the impossible.
Don’t go wobbly on me, Eric. Obfuscating a lie is against our Scouting values. I stated that the other stuff is possible, but this issue of sleeping in tents is not. Putting it in that letter, Dr. Dobson was just trying to scare people. I don’t know why. Does he think his readers don’t consider the real possibilities scary enough? Of course they do. Lying as public policy is wrong. That just makes a person a liar.
As I said, if Obama appoints Supreme Court justices, is there a possibility that they will find a heretofore hidden right to same sex marriage in the Constitution? Yes. Would a court of that type reverse Dale? Yes. That’s it. That’s the end of the line. No sleeping in tents. It’s just not possible.
Eric Says:
29 October 2008 at 11:38 pm.
There are many things in our society today that I never thought would have been possible. As I said, I don’t expect it to happen, but I would not go so far as to say it’s impossible. This is Scouting and we should try to leave politics out of it, but I think it would be difficult to argue that the Left’s agenda holds the same values as the worldwide Scouting movement.
If anything, I think it would never get to that point, because the BSA would have been forced to fold before it got to that. The BSA has shown that it’s unwilling to back down on homosexual leaders. In a Democrat-controlled Senate, how long do you think the BSA charter will last? Do you think it would survive another test in the Supreme Court with after the appointment of a couple of Obama justices?
I see your point; I really do. But I won’t declare that it’s impossible. I never thought this country would be on the verge of electing a President who actively worked to defeat a bill that would require that medial attention be given to a baby born alive from a botched abortion. I honestly see no limits to what that man is capable of.
That’s why I don’t think I’m “obfuscating a lie”. Dobson is certainly trying to scare people. That seems to be how elections are won these days. But I would never say never, not matter how unlikely it seems today. (Again, I would see the BSA folding before that was ever enacted.)
admin Says:
30 October 2008 at 1:20 pm.
Okay. I strongly believe that the Supreme Court would never rule on specific, inside policies of non-profits, like their sleeping arrangements. I really believe the tent thing is literally impossible.
T. Snow Says:
22 September 2009 at 1:43 am.
Um, if the homosexual males are not sleeping with the boys in their tents at Boy Scout functions, then who are supervising the boys when they are supposed to be sleeping? I am assuming that if a homosexual male is serving as scout master, then he would also reserve the right to sleep with his troop. The Supreme Court doesn’t have to make a specific ruling about the Boy Scouts’ sleeping arrangements, but in saying that the Boy Scouts must hire homosexuals it only stands to reason that those homosexuals would have the same duties and responsibilities as the heterosexuals, which includes sleeping with the boys in tents.
